I agree that the Epstein files should be released. But what troubles me—- with all the outrageous things that this administration has done to immigrants, the poor, the closings of federal aid — that the non-release of the Epstein files is what MAGA is fired up about. What does it say about our country and the people living in it. Guess I should no longer be surprised ( sadly) .
Honestly, focusing on this here in Substack feels icky, as well. But right’s right. And I, too, find it odd that THIS is what has gained the attention of some really dedicated mouth-breathers.
Ironically the woman is the fall "guy", sort of like Martha Stewart having the book thrown at her for insider trading when few men faced the same penalties!
And the worst part about the Stewart case is that she served time for what amounted to peanuts ($40,000) in terms of the windfalls reaped by the majority of insider trading which runs into the millions.
Never. She pimped for a child trafficker -- she's as guilty as he was. She literally "taught" those kids what to do to "please" Epstein during the "massage" sessions. She's rotten to the core as he was. The best she can hope for is that she doesn't end up dead in prison due to "suicide."
On occasion I will browse the Conservative group on Reddit. Right now they seem genuinely surprised that trump could possibly be on there….or perhaps that’s just some troll (not me, I don’t post, just read) who’s trying to stir up conversation. The responses are usually 1) why didn’t Biden release the records (me: I’m glad he didn’t), and 2) “they” don’t want it revealed because there are democrats on there. I really want to ask how old they all are and where did they grow up? Those of us in our 50s and beyond who grew up in the Northeast have known for YEARS what a piece of sh*t he is.
Even some of us in the heartland knew what a POS he was. He was famous for greed and avarice. He was presented (to me) as what really awful rich people were like. What is there to embrace about that? Nothing.
I’ve known this since 9/11 when I with my roommate who uses a wheelchair to get around sat one row behind and almost directly behind him and “Mr Mayor” himself in church after we both attended a week after the “event.” He and Rudy make me wanna puke. I think these sickening guys should have to clean up all the vomit on the floor of congress after we put Trump et al in Alligator Alcatraz within glass cages as living warnings to us all what happens when liars rise and truth defenders fall. Hi ho. ⚔️
Are any reporters asking for good reasons for withholding the information? And then saying “No, a substantive, good reason” and “That’s not a reason of any sort, that’s abusive dismissal of the question“?
I still have hopes that slower-moving politicians will do the very same things. They’re very involved in processes that silence outsiders, so they should be able to recognize it being turned on them— and they have power to call it out.
It’s time and past time. It would be nice to engage the same processes when it comes to destructive policy, but we start where we start.
Gotta say, I'm feeling fairly fed up with humans, and with USians in particular. And believe me, it's not because I imagine I'm any great shakes. That's what makes it worse. :(
Epstein was an intriguing and despicable character. His checkered past, his amassed wealth, his ties to spydom all are worthy of deep drilling. My guess is the "list" is full of VIP's who need to be outed and prosecuted. His gal pal is serving 20 years, Prince Andrew had been "dethroned" and Jeff was shut down but there has to be much more to this pathetic story. Meanwhile innocents are being murdered in Ukraine and Gaza, what a world?!?
Release the Epstein files and just watch. Sit back, grab some popcorn and you’ll be amazed at how fast the lies, the propaganda, and the cover-ups start to emerge. Personally, I can’t wait. And based on previous 🍊Felon scandals, nothing will happen to him. But maybe he’ll die in the process. One can only hope. ⚔️
Well…..? Where to GO is the issue now! I’m being urged to return home to fight the good fight but that’s impossible! I’m too old for jail now (?!?) and I’m too used to the four seasons here and I’m less likely to be jailed. I’m trying to get a project launched and the 13 yr old grandkid is here and wants to go horseback riding and tubing on the Farmington! And I can’t leave my farms, Bristol’s best corn evah and Gary’s Garlic Farm’s world-class garlic, tomatoes and onions! So I guess it’s good news! Anyone know of a humble place to park my bones! I have no shame. Words of mouth is all we have in the market right now! Looking to stay near the Farmington River but now we are throwing luck to the wind. We’ve been outbid once already! Hi ho!
I believe a majority of the majority has to approve bringing a vote to the floor (the Hastert rule), so I’m not holding my breath. The dems can get people on the record voting against the vote but the procedural stuff gives the republicans some fog to hide in. We could be depending on Uber MAGA purists to bring the vote to release the files to the floor.
BTW, Bondi is starting to look ghostly pale. Did Stephen Miller bite her on the neck?
Not only the list but also the photos and recordings which were seized by the FBI when Epstein was arrested. Everyone knew he was a pervert when he was originally arrested in FL and indicted in 2007. In 2008, Alex Acosta the US Attorney for Florida's southern district approved a non-federal prosecution agreement with Epstein. So he was never charged with trafficking - just solicitation on the pretense that the girls were prostitutes. Reading the Miami Herald's Julie Browns' coverage of the case is gut churning when you read that the toad was released from Palm Beach jail each day to go to his "office" and then checked back into his cell at night.
If you recall Acosta was Trump's selection for Sec. of Labor in his first term and was approved and then forced to resign when the Epstein story exploded in 2019. Everyone needs to remember that Virginia Farmer -- the victim who recently died (or committed suicide) -- the girl with whom Prince Andrew had sex and ultimately paid millions of dollars to end her suit against him -- was solicited by Maxwell at Mar-A-Lago where Virginia was working as a towel girl at the spa.
There is plenty of evidence that has been buried for years.
The whole pedophile thing is such a MAGA/Q-anon bedrock conspiracy belief that they have deeply invested in it and can't let it go and the fact that Trump is openly mocking their belief system is throwing them into a spin.
I agree that the Epstein files should be released. But what troubles me—- with all the outrageous things that this administration has done to immigrants, the poor, the closings of federal aid — that the non-release of the Epstein files is what MAGA is fired up about. What does it say about our country and the people living in it. Guess I should no longer be surprised ( sadly) .
Honestly, focusing on this here in Substack feels icky, as well. But right’s right. And I, too, find it odd that THIS is what has gained the attention of some really dedicated mouth-breathers.
So, when is Ghislane Maxwell being released from prison???
Ironically the woman is the fall "guy", sort of like Martha Stewart having the book thrown at her for insider trading when few men faced the same penalties!
That’s an excellent comparison. Let the women bear the shame.
Of course.
And the worst part about the Stewart case is that she served time for what amounted to peanuts ($40,000) in terms of the windfalls reaped by the majority of insider trading which runs into the millions.
I’d forgotten the amount. Jaysus.
And our elected officials do it every day, no doubt, since they have the info ahead of the world.
She’s the water bearer. I do not think she should walk free (I get the joke, I promise) but what has this all been about?
Never. She pimped for a child trafficker -- she's as guilty as he was. She literally "taught" those kids what to do to "please" Epstein during the "massage" sessions. She's rotten to the core as he was. The best she can hope for is that she doesn't end up dead in prison due to "suicide."
On occasion I will browse the Conservative group on Reddit. Right now they seem genuinely surprised that trump could possibly be on there….or perhaps that’s just some troll (not me, I don’t post, just read) who’s trying to stir up conversation. The responses are usually 1) why didn’t Biden release the records (me: I’m glad he didn’t), and 2) “they” don’t want it revealed because there are democrats on there. I really want to ask how old they all are and where did they grow up? Those of us in our 50s and beyond who grew up in the Northeast have known for YEARS what a piece of sh*t he is.
Even some of us in the heartland knew what a POS he was. He was famous for greed and avarice. He was presented (to me) as what really awful rich people were like. What is there to embrace about that? Nothing.
I’ve known this since 9/11 when I with my roommate who uses a wheelchair to get around sat one row behind and almost directly behind him and “Mr Mayor” himself in church after we both attended a week after the “event.” He and Rudy make me wanna puke. I think these sickening guys should have to clean up all the vomit on the floor of congress after we put Trump et al in Alligator Alcatraz within glass cages as living warnings to us all what happens when liars rise and truth defenders fall. Hi ho. ⚔️
Are any reporters asking for good reasons for withholding the information? And then saying “No, a substantive, good reason” and “That’s not a reason of any sort, that’s abusive dismissal of the question“?
I still have hopes that slower-moving politicians will do the very same things. They’re very involved in processes that silence outsiders, so they should be able to recognize it being turned on them— and they have power to call it out.
It’s time and past time. It would be nice to engage the same processes when it comes to destructive policy, but we start where we start.
Maybe this could be an ice breaker. Rule of law for the whole Epstein cartel, then rule of law for all.
One hopes.
Gotta say, I'm feeling fairly fed up with humans, and with USians in particular. And believe me, it's not because I imagine I'm any great shakes. That's what makes it worse. :(
Epstein was an intriguing and despicable character. His checkered past, his amassed wealth, his ties to spydom all are worthy of deep drilling. My guess is the "list" is full of VIP's who need to be outed and prosecuted. His gal pal is serving 20 years, Prince Andrew had been "dethroned" and Jeff was shut down but there has to be much more to this pathetic story. Meanwhile innocents are being murdered in Ukraine and Gaza, what a world?!?
Yes to all this. And the genocide continues.
Well, rapture approaches, no? They are pawns.
In case you haven't read it-- I hadn't-- and are in the mood to be totally repulsed by what people think was hilarious and charming: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/10/i-called-everyone-in-jeffrey-epsteins-little-black-book/
Release the Epstein files and just watch. Sit back, grab some popcorn and you’ll be amazed at how fast the lies, the propaganda, and the cover-ups start to emerge. Personally, I can’t wait. And based on previous 🍊Felon scandals, nothing will happen to him. But maybe he’ll die in the process. One can only hope. ⚔️
Every day, another disappointment in the obits.
How’s the trip? We wound up not going because of a contract on our house. Did you go to Sadie’s?
And wait. A contract on your house? That’s good news, right?
Well…..? Where to GO is the issue now! I’m being urged to return home to fight the good fight but that’s impossible! I’m too old for jail now (?!?) and I’m too used to the four seasons here and I’m less likely to be jailed. I’m trying to get a project launched and the 13 yr old grandkid is here and wants to go horseback riding and tubing on the Farmington! And I can’t leave my farms, Bristol’s best corn evah and Gary’s Garlic Farm’s world-class garlic, tomatoes and onions! So I guess it’s good news! Anyone know of a humble place to park my bones! I have no shame. Words of mouth is all we have in the market right now! Looking to stay near the Farmington River but now we are throwing luck to the wind. We’ve been outbid once already! Hi ho!
I will keep my fingers crossed that you find something wonderful.
Last night. It was heavenly. I came home stuffed so thanks for the recommendation. My brother said that was the restaurant he’d chosen.
We want the full truth.
Release the list.
Release the list.
I believe a majority of the majority has to approve bringing a vote to the floor (the Hastert rule), so I’m not holding my breath. The dems can get people on the record voting against the vote but the procedural stuff gives the republicans some fog to hide in. We could be depending on Uber MAGA purists to bring the vote to release the files to the floor.
BTW, Bondi is starting to look ghostly pale. Did Stephen Miller bite her on the neck?
Omgoddess!
Not only the list but also the photos and recordings which were seized by the FBI when Epstein was arrested. Everyone knew he was a pervert when he was originally arrested in FL and indicted in 2007. In 2008, Alex Acosta the US Attorney for Florida's southern district approved a non-federal prosecution agreement with Epstein. So he was never charged with trafficking - just solicitation on the pretense that the girls were prostitutes. Reading the Miami Herald's Julie Browns' coverage of the case is gut churning when you read that the toad was released from Palm Beach jail each day to go to his "office" and then checked back into his cell at night.
If you recall Acosta was Trump's selection for Sec. of Labor in his first term and was approved and then forced to resign when the Epstein story exploded in 2019. Everyone needs to remember that Virginia Farmer -- the victim who recently died (or committed suicide) -- the girl with whom Prince Andrew had sex and ultimately paid millions of dollars to end her suit against him -- was solicited by Maxwell at Mar-A-Lago where Virginia was working as a towel girl at the spa.
There is plenty of evidence that has been buried for years.
….buried with loose soil….
The whole pedophile thing is such a MAGA/Q-anon bedrock conspiracy belief that they have deeply invested in it and can't let it go and the fact that Trump is openly mocking their belief system is throwing them into a spin.
A tizzy?