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Lori Pelletier's avatar

The thin line between fascination and fantasies completely vanishes when murderers, traitors and criminals are involved. Artifacts belong in museums not above your fireplace or in places of honor. I’m tired of the pretzel positions their logic takes.

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Thomas Dombroski's avatar

I wonder how much communist paraphernalia George Soros has???

Do the goofballs on the right consider him to be a straw man??

Goofballs that I know cried about confederate statues being taken down and how people couldn’t learn about history

That argument crashed when I asked them how many statuses of Hitler or Stalin they see

The goofballs love to point out that democrats were in charge of the confederacy and that they started the KKK

I always agree with that and add that Lincoln was a republican and the people that opposed him carried the confederate battle flag but who is carrying the flag today??

I guarantee they didn’t vote for Obama or Clinton or Biden

Of course it really doesn’t matter to the goofballs

They just believe what they believe

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Susan Campbell's avatar

And there's no getting through that thick fog, is there?

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Mary Ann Dimand's avatar

Sometimes there are people in their vicinity who think that the goofball way is *what there is*. Testimony is so those often-silent people hear another voice.

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Thomas Dombroski's avatar

There is a way to get through

Unfortunately many will run back to an echo chamber and have their beliefs reinforced

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Susan Campbell's avatar

But at least you're trying...

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Paul Ashton's avatar

It’s like saying you wear a klan robe because you like loose fitting clothes.

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Susan Campbell's avatar

Right. Why wear a dashiki when a klan fits so well?

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Mike's avatar

Mein Gott! I did Nazi this coming.

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Susan Campbell's avatar

Good one.

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Mary Ann Dimand's avatar

I think as well of the crowds of people who have thought and even now think that an accurate reproduction of the statements of white supremacists, misogynists, oppressors of all sorts is Clearly High Humor Don't You Get It.

Insofar as that's sincere, it doesn't work as lampooning. It just propagates the hateful perspective.

I think that collecting Nazi/dictator memorabilia reveals fascination. The fascination may or may not be tinged with repulsion, but I don't think it demonstrates anything healthy.

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Ava's avatar

This is an interesting discussion that started years ago with respect to Crow. In 2015, Crow hosted a fundraiser for Marco Rubio in his home on Kol Nidrei eve. Debbie Wasserman Schultz roundly condemned this - and was promptly attacked by Rabbi Michael Barclay. Barclay (for whom I have, at best, little respect - in part because of this) yammered on about Rep. Schultz, ignoring the excruciating timing of the event, using that same "importance of history and remembrance" line.

I would argue that the way Germany has preserved Nazi era history (albeit partly as an expression of mea culpa) with brutal honesty and utterly without glorification, belies the thinly disguised worship we're really seeing in Crow's collection and his signed copy of Mein Kampf.

Well, that and the fact that he has certainly given the appearance of purchasing one of the Supremes (and in a relatively cheap and sneaky fashion).

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Susan Campbell's avatar

I can't seem to post the screenshot, but the tweet Mary Ann posted said: "Listen, I recognize that it’s because they’re basically identical groups who are doing this, but having a list of reasons why one might own Nazi shit is some real “knowing the age of consent in every state” energy." (From Andrew Ti.)

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Willa Nemetz's avatar

That Jonah Goldberg is defending this is just another item in my Irony Collection.

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