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Sharon Foster (CT)'s avatar

I Am Not A Doctor, but it seems so obvious to me from his speech patterns that RFK Jr is suffering from some sort of neurological problem. What it is I do not know, and whether and how it can be treated I do not know. The people who are pushing him into the spotlight, even to the point of suggesting he run for the Democratic nomination for president, are evil opportunists.

I am a child of the 1960s. No one loved RFK and wanted him to be president more than I did. RFK Jr is no RFK. Dynasty, schmynasty.

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Susan Campbell's avatar

I think there is a lot of nostalgia attached to the candidate, and nostalgia can cloud reason. He is not a viable candidate, and as you say, look at who is pushing for him. Look at the Republicans who have crawled out of the woodwork to wring their hands and say, "Oooh, he could beat Trump, we are frightened," when all that is is bad political theater.

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Rich Colbert's avatar

I've read that some of his vocal issues are tied back to his heroin addiction....

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Susan Campbell's avatar

Really? Yikes. I know he faced charges in the way back...

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Rich Colbert's avatar

We live in an upside down era! Ignorant “ louds” have followings of uneducated sheep. Rogan, Kennedy, Musk, Alex Jones, 45, et al get great pleasure in widening the divide. They mock scientists, educators, and those who diligently work for the common good. God bless all who stand up for the majority of us who would prefer a shot in the arm than lying in the ICU suffering a certain death!

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Susan Campbell's avatar

The louds cannot win.

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Carol M Robinson's avatar

And all the people said Amen!!

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Susan Campbell's avatar

Amen!

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Paul Ashton's avatar

Rogan is like one of those guys who hang out in bars and try to start something by telling one guy at the end of the bar that the guy at the other end of the bar was saying nasty things about him. It’s kind of parasitic and weaselly.

I read that Kennedy spent three hours with Rogan on Rogan’s podcast. Who would listen to a three hour conversation between Rogan and Kennedy?! Jeezus, these people must hate themselves.

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Susan Campbell's avatar

Maybe they were being punished?

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B Keck's avatar

Thanks for sharing Dr. Black’s tweet; it says it all. As I noted in my own retweet of his graphic:

“ ‘Debating’ a thoroughly debunked conspiracy theorist on a podcast in the name of ‘fairness’ has nothing to do with science. Instead, it gives a rich political candidate with name recognition a platform he does not deserve. THIS graphic sums up the entire manufactured controversy.”

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Susan Campbell's avatar

True.

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Paul Ashton's avatar

Don’t be adding to the confusement with your words and methods and science.

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Mary Ann Dimand's avatar

I have been thinking lately that characterizations of the Gish gallop tend to understate the problem in saying that it consists of spouting assertions of fact too fast to keep up with. The form as practiced embraces the far harder to keep up with maelstrom of shifting framings. You only have to have a memory and logic to anatomize them, not reference materials, but the explanation takes longer.

This courtesy of a recent conversation with someone I love who went from distrusting both Russia and the Ukraine on who destroyed the dam at the Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Plant, prioritizing that suspicion way over concern for the damages, because you want to prevent Them from doing It again, to withdrawing all funding of Ukrainian self-defense as a policy tool in support of that, to sneering at "people who have opposed US engaging in proxy wars" to how despicably insincere supposed anti-war people are....

Reference on the Gish gallop: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop

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Susan Campbell's avatar

Yikes. Double yikes.

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Jac's avatar

I am not tuned into any of these guys and their attempted sparring matches. They apparently want attention for sure. And yeah, you can't debate someone who clings to conspiracies and doesn't accept facts and science.

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Thomas Dombroski's avatar

I used to watch Rogan from time to time

One thing that strikes me about him is that depending on who he has on his show , it changes his responses

He sounds like a more responsible person if he is talking to Neil deGrasse Tyson than Elon Musk

It seems his opinions blow in the wind

But I still like the character he played on News Radio

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9zvcAotOQic&pp=ygUQbmV3cyByYWRpbyBzaGFmdA%3D%3D

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Susan Campbell's avatar

This is a good point. I’ve heard him be entirely respectful but I will most remember him for his anti-science horseshit.

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Paul Ashton's avatar

That's a problem with people in the arts. Sometimes their art, drama, music, whatever, is more likable then their actual self. It's usually better not to know but in Rogan's case, he won't allow it.

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