Simple…she got the reports, saw that 🍊Felon was on the list, including photo evidence of him and his best pal Jeff, and all of a sudden, POOF! The list has disappeared!
Would any person with a modicum of intelligence believe anything different happened?
The bright spot is that the MAGAts who are clamoring for release of the files will be so sorry they did when they find how involved their Dear Leader was…⚔️
MAGA’s political arm is a fog machine and their fog is the chaos they hide behind. Johnson, Greene, Hawley are all fakers. Johnson betrayed his own fundamental believes several times and just smiles and shrugs. They may have even been given the ok to say the things they are saying. They remain united against truth and reason. We may get lucky and get the hand full of republicans we need to get approval of the release but the likelihood of that happening has a short shelf life. The attention span of the voters is painfully short, this is where the fog/chaos/delay comes in. I’m not saying it’s impossible but a miracle, maybe. There’s too many victims and too many journalists interested in this right now. I’m guessing that’s where the real potential for the breaking the log jam exists right now and at least keep the story alive.
The fog machine is really effective, too, with the doubt Trump et al have sown in our institutions. If you can’t trust the courts, the press, or your government, you’re left with…Trump. I hate the way things are now.
I know we’ve been here before but I have to believe that somewhere someone is one reliable source or one piece of evidence away from being able to go public with a story that breaks through. There seems to be too much out there even for a snake like Bondi to suppress. The things we hold on to be hopeful these days are pretty depressing but as we say in the house, “Keep moving forward, like a shark”.
This all makes me incredibly sad. First, with the horror show that DJT has unleashed, it takes raping children to get many people to even pay attention. Second is (and this bring me to tears, actually) would even this be enough? Is there a red line for Trump with his cult? I absolutely believe he could murder someone in cold blood on Fifth Avenue and not lose his cult following. Would evidence that He had sex with girls be enough? I don't know, and that makes me incredibly sad. The very cheerful news is that we don't need to (can't anyway) eliminate his cult following. What we CAN do is neutralize them, by making the opposition to Trump so overwhelming that he can't function. Onward!
Onward, indeed. I do not think, for some, that this will be enough. They'll roll this up into some kind of Jim Jones situation, where Sex With Girls Is Necessary And Those Girls Should Be Grateful. I really am at my wit's end with these folks.
The Trump cult is beyond the reach of reason so there is utterly no point in even reasoning with them. It is a waste of time and energy. The politicians are more calculating and will give up their allegiance if they can be convinced it is not in their interests. Most vulnerable (to reason and reality) are the Trump supporters who like him or his policies but are not so strongly tied to him emotionally that they have lost their rational abilities. Onward indeed.
Lies and the lying liars. Everything in regard to the Epstein case should have been revealed years ago including when he was first arrested in FL for “solicitation” and the federal prosecution was squashed by Alex Acosta the US attorney for south FL and Pam B. was the AG. The rot is far and wide in this case. Politicians, celebrities, wealthy men, and the brother of King Charles III. This was an international trafficking operation Epstein ran that made him a very rich pedophile. Maxwell’s testimony isn’t really crucial when there are client lists, flight logs, testimony by the victims, and photos and videos that were seized from his homes at the time of his arrest.
Sorry, but after the publicity Hawley got saying we shouldn’t cut Medicaid to every media outlet he could find, and then quietly voting for it anyway, he has lost the little credibility he had left. He just says what he thinks his constituents want to hear, and then screws them over with his vote.
Thanks so much for this information. I will definitely contact them to let them know, “We are not pleased with this vote. We wonder about you and your decision making process.”
To paraphrase James Baldwin... "I can't believe what you say because I see what you do."
Indeed.
There is no bottom to the cesspool of MAGA yet the outflow is contaminating the world we live in!
Perfect description. It’s not a swamp. It’s a never ending cesspool. And it desperately needs draining.
Swamps have their charms. Cesspools do not. Perfect.
Simple…she got the reports, saw that 🍊Felon was on the list, including photo evidence of him and his best pal Jeff, and all of a sudden, POOF! The list has disappeared!
Would any person with a modicum of intelligence believe anything different happened?
The bright spot is that the MAGAts who are clamoring for release of the files will be so sorry they did when they find how involved their Dear Leader was…⚔️
They should be turning on one another in 3..2…
MAGA’s political arm is a fog machine and their fog is the chaos they hide behind. Johnson, Greene, Hawley are all fakers. Johnson betrayed his own fundamental believes several times and just smiles and shrugs. They may have even been given the ok to say the things they are saying. They remain united against truth and reason. We may get lucky and get the hand full of republicans we need to get approval of the release but the likelihood of that happening has a short shelf life. The attention span of the voters is painfully short, this is where the fog/chaos/delay comes in. I’m not saying it’s impossible but a miracle, maybe. There’s too many victims and too many journalists interested in this right now. I’m guessing that’s where the real potential for the breaking the log jam exists right now and at least keep the story alive.
The fog machine is really effective, too, with the doubt Trump et al have sown in our institutions. If you can’t trust the courts, the press, or your government, you’re left with…Trump. I hate the way things are now.
I know we’ve been here before but I have to believe that somewhere someone is one reliable source or one piece of evidence away from being able to go public with a story that breaks through. There seems to be too much out there even for a snake like Bondi to suppress. The things we hold on to be hopeful these days are pretty depressing but as we say in the house, “Keep moving forward, like a shark”.
Here is where we hope that not only the courts hold, but the press does, as well.
Someone outside of government channels needs to blow the lid off of this Epstein thing. It will make Watergate look like a Sunday tea party.
This all makes me incredibly sad. First, with the horror show that DJT has unleashed, it takes raping children to get many people to even pay attention. Second is (and this bring me to tears, actually) would even this be enough? Is there a red line for Trump with his cult? I absolutely believe he could murder someone in cold blood on Fifth Avenue and not lose his cult following. Would evidence that He had sex with girls be enough? I don't know, and that makes me incredibly sad. The very cheerful news is that we don't need to (can't anyway) eliminate his cult following. What we CAN do is neutralize them, by making the opposition to Trump so overwhelming that he can't function. Onward!
Onward, indeed. I do not think, for some, that this will be enough. They'll roll this up into some kind of Jim Jones situation, where Sex With Girls Is Necessary And Those Girls Should Be Grateful. I really am at my wit's end with these folks.
The Trump cult is beyond the reach of reason so there is utterly no point in even reasoning with them. It is a waste of time and energy. The politicians are more calculating and will give up their allegiance if they can be convinced it is not in their interests. Most vulnerable (to reason and reality) are the Trump supporters who like him or his policies but are not so strongly tied to him emotionally that they have lost their rational abilities. Onward indeed.
Lies and the lying liars. Everything in regard to the Epstein case should have been revealed years ago including when he was first arrested in FL for “solicitation” and the federal prosecution was squashed by Alex Acosta the US attorney for south FL and Pam B. was the AG. The rot is far and wide in this case. Politicians, celebrities, wealthy men, and the brother of King Charles III. This was an international trafficking operation Epstein ran that made him a very rich pedophile. Maxwell’s testimony isn’t really crucial when there are client lists, flight logs, testimony by the victims, and photos and videos that were seized from his homes at the time of his arrest.
Sorry, but after the publicity Hawley got saying we shouldn’t cut Medicaid to every media outlet he could find, and then quietly voting for it anyway, he has lost the little credibility he had left. He just says what he thinks his constituents want to hear, and then screws them over with his vote.
This is an excellent point. He’s a performative nutless cracker.
If anyone knows, it's Ghislaine! Been waiting for her to spill the beans!
She’d be doing so, or so I assume, to try to overturn her conviction, but who cares?
I wonder who the two Democratic no votes were.
I went looking but got sidetracked.
Well, you’re on vacation, right? You should be getting sidetracked. :-)
Not from this, I’m not.
Ramirez of Illinois, Wilson of Florida. There's more here: https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2025194
Thanks so much for this information. I will definitely contact them to let them know, “We are not pleased with this vote. We wonder about you and your decision making process.”
Git ‘em.