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Paul Ashton's avatar

Just another reason why 2022 is so important. We need to turn some more senate seats and make guys like Joe “Let them eat coal” Manchin irrelevant.

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Susan Campbell's avatar

Amen.

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Sharon Foster (CT)'s avatar

I'm really getting fed up with Democrats being held to a higher standard of behavior than Republicans.

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Susan Campbell's avatar

And when I’ve made that argument, I’m told, “We have to be better than them.” Really? I’m not talking scorched earth here. But why?

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Sharon Foster (CT)'s avatar

Yeah, we do, but we don't have to eat our own. Losing Al Franken from the Senate was the last straw for me.

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Susan Campbell's avatar

I have long wished for a yard dog on a short chain for the Democrats. Let’s hire out.

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Christopher Tracy's avatar

This has me madder than a wet hen (as my demure English grandmother would say to her Scottish husband.) The fact that a smug entitled white man like Senator Manchin (whose daughter was a moral bedfellow of Martin Shrekli) voiced his objections to three women of color and a Mexican American man, though he had no such objection to Trump and his far more vocal, venal and mendacious minions despite their vicious attacks in tweeted, texted and verbal form.

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Susan Campbell's avatar

Joe needs to go. I do not accept West Virginia doesn't have any real Democrats.

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Zalman Nakhimovsky's avatar

Real democrats lose WV by 30 points unless they are war hero Richard Ojeda (who was still way right of the party on social issues), who lost by 6 for the house and then lost a Senate primary to a "realler" democrat. Manchin voted against ACB and DeVoss, for both impeachments, supports the ACA, he's the best we can do right now.

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Susan Campbell's avatar

And even after I wrote the comment above, I thought, "What, precisely, do I mean by "real Democrats?" I'm from Missouri, and a real Democrat is, oh, Harry Truman, who is dead. I understand the difficulty of getting someone on a ticket and getting them elected, and I believe I shall just quietly close my pie hole on this one. I'm far more offended by politicians from my home state, and if the Democrats really ARE the Big Tent party, we're going to have to realize (I'm talking to myself here) that there will be conservative Democrats.

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Christopher Tracy's avatar

...absolutely flummoxes me.

And I'm not easily flummoxed.

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Mary Ann Dimand's avatar

Have you read Kate Manne’s Down Girl? I recommend it.

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