As a Catholic I have pushed back many times against the misogynist old men in costumes, many of whom are hypocrites and worse. Fortunately the priest who is our pastor preaches the teachings of Jesus without judging. For example, yesterday hundreds of our impoverished brothers and sisters were treated to a food fest from 1-5 in poverty stricken downtown Hartford. Do you think Cordileone would do the same for the homeless in SF?!? I do not!
Can I also say that I very much admire people who stay in the group to try to make change from within? I left my own faith group and I can tell you it's ridiculously hard to make change from without.
As a former Catholic, I AM LIVID! This institution keeps proving itself to be unworthy. Let those without sin cast the first stone... Padre was arrested for a DUI in 2012. He also was complicit in shielding pedophile priests. AND to quote John Pavlovitz...
"If everyone with “unrepentant sin” was excluded from communion this Sunday, every table would be empty, including the clergy. That’s not how this works. Someone else’s moral worthiness before God is above your pay grade, outside of your jurisdiction, and none of your business. You get to set the table, you don’t get to police it."
I thought Holy Communion was a time to come together, to experience the mystery. I’m not Catholic, but the ritual is beautiful. And why did this man get to run counter to the earlier ruling? Thank you for John Pavlovitz. I am a big fan.
Hypocrite. No other way to paint it. If Archbishop Cordileone is so concerned about making public statements regarding politicians who dare to defy church doctrine, he might want to survey his parishioners' views on the death penalty. Those who support it should also be denied communion, considering the Catholic Church has denounced it.
I grew up in the Greek Orthodox church, which is probably the most restrictive wrt who gets to receive communion. When I was a kid, not even the adults received every week, only the children. Non-orthodox are not allowed to receive to this day. The Episcopal church, at the other extreme, invites all present to receive, and many priests don't specify "all baptized" in the invitation. I'm not sure if that's official doctrine yet.
The Archbishop is wrong theologically, and he's wrong politically, but if he really wants to get involved in politics, then his diocese should be taxed, same as all other real estate.
My church was equally restrictive though I never witnessed someone being denied. That would have been weird, considering only, as Rich said above, God can judge.
I’ve thought about the whole taxing question. I’m on the fence in general but slowly slipping into believing faith groups should be taxed. In this case, though, is this a priest wading into politics? Or is it someone who is insisting a politician adhere to church teachings?
As a Catholic I have pushed back many times against the misogynist old men in costumes, many of whom are hypocrites and worse. Fortunately the priest who is our pastor preaches the teachings of Jesus without judging. For example, yesterday hundreds of our impoverished brothers and sisters were treated to a food fest from 1-5 in poverty stricken downtown Hartford. Do you think Cordileone would do the same for the homeless in SF?!? I do not!
I always appreciate when someone practices pure and undefined religion. Good on your church.
Can I also say that I very much admire people who stay in the group to try to make change from within? I left my own faith group and I can tell you it's ridiculously hard to make change from without.
As a former Catholic, I AM LIVID! This institution keeps proving itself to be unworthy. Let those without sin cast the first stone... Padre was arrested for a DUI in 2012. He also was complicit in shielding pedophile priests. AND to quote John Pavlovitz...
"If everyone with “unrepentant sin” was excluded from communion this Sunday, every table would be empty, including the clergy. That’s not how this works. Someone else’s moral worthiness before God is above your pay grade, outside of your jurisdiction, and none of your business. You get to set the table, you don’t get to police it."
https://johnpavlovitz.com/2022/05/21/withholding-communion-is-hoarding-jesus-and-its-a-sin/
I thought Holy Communion was a time to come together, to experience the mystery. I’m not Catholic, but the ritual is beautiful. And why did this man get to run counter to the earlier ruling? Thank you for John Pavlovitz. I am a big fan.
Archbishop Corleone. He'll make you an offer you can and will refuse.
You know? I canNOT read a name similar to that one without thinking the same thing. I imagine all Corleones get tired of that but I cain't hep me.
“Oh blinding light, oh light that blinds. Look out for me, I cannot see”.
Jesus washed the feet of Judas and offered him the Holy Eucharist.
So it shouldn't be that big a leap here...
Jesus washed the feet of his betrayer….
Then shared with him his great sacrifice…
Not to get all judge-y but I think we can say the archbishop falls short of that example.
Ya think?
Hypocrite. No other way to paint it. If Archbishop Cordileone is so concerned about making public statements regarding politicians who dare to defy church doctrine, he might want to survey his parishioners' views on the death penalty. Those who support it should also be denied communion, considering the Catholic Church has denounced it.
I just love the example set by people who treat their own religion as a smorgasbord.
That line at the end is *chef’s kiss 💋
I grew up in the Greek Orthodox church, which is probably the most restrictive wrt who gets to receive communion. When I was a kid, not even the adults received every week, only the children. Non-orthodox are not allowed to receive to this day. The Episcopal church, at the other extreme, invites all present to receive, and many priests don't specify "all baptized" in the invitation. I'm not sure if that's official doctrine yet.
The Archbishop is wrong theologically, and he's wrong politically, but if he really wants to get involved in politics, then his diocese should be taxed, same as all other real estate.
My church was equally restrictive though I never witnessed someone being denied. That would have been weird, considering only, as Rich said above, God can judge.
I’ve thought about the whole taxing question. I’m on the fence in general but slowly slipping into believing faith groups should be taxed. In this case, though, is this a priest wading into politics? Or is it someone who is insisting a politician adhere to church teachings?
Not sinless and not in line with others within his own church.