Stephen Miller - the devil incarnate - dances as the flames rage. He WILL face his Nuremburg moment. Till then, it is up to us to keep raising our own voices.
It will continue to get worse before it gets better....think about the syphilitic mad king firing the last members of the election commission, we've crossed the Rubicon....
We're facing a summer of hate bookending the 60s, the decade that drove the racists crazy. Markwayne will have to prove his allegiance to the dark lords, burnish his bona fides with MAGA, and outdo his predecessors in murder, America being a competitive country. Washington is a demeritocracy, rewarding destructive capability. Worth gets you nowhere. Desecration is prized over everything.
Innocents are hurt first and worst. MAGA can't abide innocence. Innocence is the original sin, an unnatural state of purity in a world that's shit. It must be eradicated. Expiated, if you will, and atoned for, like killing someone for final induction into a street gang. This is the devil's baptism, a rite of fire. For older converts acceptance is assured by acts of evil, on admission into the confraternity of lost souls.
I think I figured it out once when I worked hard on comprehending it, a long time ago, motivated by an actual experience of evil and realizing, in the instant, there was no culpability. The person was just incredibly sick. It was sobering as hell.
I'm rusty, but MAGA plagues anyone with a conscience so I dig in again. I should return to my original sources but everything takes time. And it's work just keeping one's emotional head above water in the MAGA age, with the daily assaults on decency.
I am sorry you had to experience that evil moment. Speaking of sobering as hell moments. One of mine (in this nightmare time) was when a well educated engineer I know (and had thought was a normal kind of fellow ) looked me in the eye and said; "empathy is a weakness. It is the direct effect of the radical left pushing the "code" of feminizing our culture."
I was so stunned I just stood there. Empathy is bad. Empathy is BAD?
Whatever happened to "walk a mile in my shoes?" Anyway. Our sobering moments continue. May they not crush us entirely.
I'm pro-empathy, obviously, but also focus a lot on trust. It's so foundational. From Wikipedia on the origins of language ...
From the perspective of signalling theory, the main obstacle to the evolution of language-like communication in nature is not a mechanistic one. Rather, it is the fact that symbols—arbitrary associations of sounds or other perceptible forms with corresponding meanings—are unreliable and may as well be false.[41][42][43] The problem of reliability was not recognized at all by Darwin, Müller, or the other early evolutionary theorists.
Animal vocal signals are, for the most part, intrinsically reliable. When a cat purrs, the signal constitutes direct evidence of the animal's contented state. The signal is trusted, not because the cat is inclined to be honest, but because it just cannot fake that sound. Primate vocal calls may be slightly more manipulable, but they remain reliable for the same reason: they are hard to fake.[44] Primate social intelligence is "Machiavellian"; that is, self-serving and unconstrained by moral scruples. Monkeys, apes, and particularly humans often attempt to deceive each other, while at the same time remaining constantly on guard against falling victim to deception themselves.[45][46] Paradoxically, it is theorized that primates' resistance to deception is what blocks the evolution of their signalling systems along language-like lines. Language is ruled out because the best way to guard against being deceived is to ignore all signals except those that are instantly verifiable. Words automatically fail this test.[19]
Words are easy to fake. Should they turn out to be lies, listeners will adapt by ignoring them in favor of hard-to-fake indices or cues. For language to work, listeners must be confident that those with whom they are on speaking terms are generally likely to be honest.[47] A peculiar feature of language is displaced reference, which means reference to topics outside the currently perceptible situation. This property prevents utterances from being corroborated in the immediate "here" and "now." For this reason, language presupposes relatively high levels of mutual trust in order to become established over time as an evolutionarily stable strategy. This stability is born of a longstanding mutual trust and is what grants language its authority. A theory of the origins of language must therefore explain why humans could begin trusting cheap signals in ways that other animals apparently cannot.
The case against simple empathy I've run into argues that it has to be applied in a way that's effective, both emotionally and experientially grounded AND with a reasoned commitment and a view to wise resource deployment where there's a constraint there ... a more sophisticated empathy ...
It's discouraging. ICE kills innocent people and Congress does nothing. I just hope -- with all the missteps -- that the Dems win both chambers in the mid-terms. Maybe then some things will change. This is insanity. When will people say ENOUGH!
Yes, this is what we must do-win both chambers. So is everyone signed up for a must win race? There is not much time left. And I expect a total shit show around the election. Trump will do things we haven’t imagined yet. So what can each of us do to win the must win races by margins he can’t contest?
Excellent. And please be careful at the polls. The MAGAts are prone to violence these days. It’s a critical job, protecting voters. Your Voter Protection lead should have a strong plan for you. First thing I would figure out - are the police at the scene your friends or are they aligned with ICE if Trump has sent them in as he has threatened. I have found the local police to be friendly and I stay close to them, camera ready, Voter Protection on speed dial. I don’t mean to discourage you. It may well be the most important job of this election.
To see such a strong family - here son Ronaldo Salgado - stand in defense of his noble father Lorenzo is a measure of hope. But only if justice is done, which means, as already noted: ICE is abolished; Miller is arrested, tried and put away for life; Trump is impeached for allowing these crimes to proceed; his replacement defeated in 2028. In the meantime, we vote Blue in the Midterm Elections to take back control of Congress and put a measure of sanity (some, but these Democrats have to be stronger and stand bold like Ronaldo and his family). The Lorenzo Salgado's of this world are what make the US strong and dignified, not the Trumps, the Millers, the Holmans, the Hegseths, the Markwaynes, for God's sake, etc. These are all weak, pathetic men abusing power. Listen to the Salgueros - their nobility and dignity are what should be exemplified and practiced. The ICE agents and their bosses are pathetic and criminal . . . I'll stop and go cry . . .! )-:
These are precisely the kind of people who make America great -- and not "again," but still. I do not know how a family bears up under this kind of mess, but they are inspiring. I cannot imagine what they're going through, and it's heartbreaking.
Stephen Miller - the devil incarnate - dances as the flames rage. He WILL face his Nuremburg moment. Till then, it is up to us to keep raising our own voices.
I agree. His time is coming and justice will prevail. The rule of law doesn’t care about your racist feelings, Steve.
We can only hope for Nuremberg
It will continue to get worse before it gets better....think about the syphilitic mad king firing the last members of the election commission, we've crossed the Rubicon....
We have. Now how do we fix this?
That is a question we all must ponder....the 25th amendment provides one option, even though we would then have the Shillbilly in charge......
Out of the frying pan…I am having a hard time seeing a way forward with the political leaders we have. Maybe it’s time for a deep flush.
This great song by Henley/Hornsby came to mind upon further reflection:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOy5KSrwHGw
From your lips .
We're facing a summer of hate bookending the 60s, the decade that drove the racists crazy. Markwayne will have to prove his allegiance to the dark lords, burnish his bona fides with MAGA, and outdo his predecessors in murder, America being a competitive country. Washington is a demeritocracy, rewarding destructive capability. Worth gets you nowhere. Desecration is prized over everything.
Innocents are hurt first and worst. MAGA can't abide innocence. Innocence is the original sin, an unnatural state of purity in a world that's shit. It must be eradicated. Expiated, if you will, and atoned for, like killing someone for final induction into a street gang. This is the devil's baptism, a rite of fire. For older converts acceptance is assured by acts of evil, on admission into the confraternity of lost souls.
Now I’m going to toddle off and think about that notion, innocence is the original sin and mustn’t be tolerated. That would explain a lot.
I think I figured it out once when I worked hard on comprehending it, a long time ago, motivated by an actual experience of evil and realizing, in the instant, there was no culpability. The person was just incredibly sick. It was sobering as hell.
I'm rusty, but MAGA plagues anyone with a conscience so I dig in again. I should return to my original sources but everything takes time. And it's work just keeping one's emotional head above water in the MAGA age, with the daily assaults on decency.
It’s been one indignity — or worse — after another. But you’ve given me something to think about and I appreciate that.
I am sorry you had to experience that evil moment. Speaking of sobering as hell moments. One of mine (in this nightmare time) was when a well educated engineer I know (and had thought was a normal kind of fellow ) looked me in the eye and said; "empathy is a weakness. It is the direct effect of the radical left pushing the "code" of feminizing our culture."
I was so stunned I just stood there. Empathy is bad. Empathy is BAD?
Whatever happened to "walk a mile in my shoes?" Anyway. Our sobering moments continue. May they not crush us entirely.
Then there's this. Start with cooperation but be prepared to resist exploitation and abuse, apparently ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tit_for_tat?wprov=sfti1#Problems
I'm pro-empathy, obviously, but also focus a lot on trust. It's so foundational. From Wikipedia on the origins of language ...
From the perspective of signalling theory, the main obstacle to the evolution of language-like communication in nature is not a mechanistic one. Rather, it is the fact that symbols—arbitrary associations of sounds or other perceptible forms with corresponding meanings—are unreliable and may as well be false.[41][42][43] The problem of reliability was not recognized at all by Darwin, Müller, or the other early evolutionary theorists.
Animal vocal signals are, for the most part, intrinsically reliable. When a cat purrs, the signal constitutes direct evidence of the animal's contented state. The signal is trusted, not because the cat is inclined to be honest, but because it just cannot fake that sound. Primate vocal calls may be slightly more manipulable, but they remain reliable for the same reason: they are hard to fake.[44] Primate social intelligence is "Machiavellian"; that is, self-serving and unconstrained by moral scruples. Monkeys, apes, and particularly humans often attempt to deceive each other, while at the same time remaining constantly on guard against falling victim to deception themselves.[45][46] Paradoxically, it is theorized that primates' resistance to deception is what blocks the evolution of their signalling systems along language-like lines. Language is ruled out because the best way to guard against being deceived is to ignore all signals except those that are instantly verifiable. Words automatically fail this test.[19]
Words are easy to fake. Should they turn out to be lies, listeners will adapt by ignoring them in favor of hard-to-fake indices or cues. For language to work, listeners must be confident that those with whom they are on speaking terms are generally likely to be honest.[47] A peculiar feature of language is displaced reference, which means reference to topics outside the currently perceptible situation. This property prevents utterances from being corroborated in the immediate "here" and "now." For this reason, language presupposes relatively high levels of mutual trust in order to become established over time as an evolutionarily stable strategy. This stability is born of a longstanding mutual trust and is what grants language its authority. A theory of the origins of language must therefore explain why humans could begin trusting cheap signals in ways that other animals apparently cannot.
The case against simple empathy I've run into argues that it has to be applied in a way that's effective, both emotionally and experientially grounded AND with a reasoned commitment and a view to wise resource deployment where there's a constraint there ... a more sophisticated empathy ...
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/05/20/the-baby-in-the-well
The murderers need to be prosecuted and put in jail. There needs to be consequences.
This murder is outrageous. ICE needs to be abolished.
I stand ready. I’ve moved but have put my name in to be a poll worker in my new town.
Absolutely. They are a terrorist group.
It's discouraging. ICE kills innocent people and Congress does nothing. I just hope -- with all the missteps -- that the Dems win both chambers in the mid-terms. Maybe then some things will change. This is insanity. When will people say ENOUGH!
Yes, this is what we must do-win both chambers. So is everyone signed up for a must win race? There is not much time left. And I expect a total shit show around the election. Trump will do things we haven’t imagined yet. So what can each of us do to win the must win races by margins he can’t contest?
Volunteer at the polls, mail postcards to voters, sign up for phone calling, donate to candidates who have a fighting chance to win.
Excellent. And please be careful at the polls. The MAGAts are prone to violence these days. It’s a critical job, protecting voters. Your Voter Protection lead should have a strong plan for you. First thing I would figure out - are the police at the scene your friends or are they aligned with ICE if Trump has sent them in as he has threatened. I have found the local police to be friendly and I stay close to them, camera ready, Voter Protection on speed dial. I don’t mean to discourage you. It may well be the most important job of this election.
Imagine….. a Jewish Nazi. May he burn in Hell.
Co-sign.
To see such a strong family - here son Ronaldo Salgado - stand in defense of his noble father Lorenzo is a measure of hope. But only if justice is done, which means, as already noted: ICE is abolished; Miller is arrested, tried and put away for life; Trump is impeached for allowing these crimes to proceed; his replacement defeated in 2028. In the meantime, we vote Blue in the Midterm Elections to take back control of Congress and put a measure of sanity (some, but these Democrats have to be stronger and stand bold like Ronaldo and his family). The Lorenzo Salgado's of this world are what make the US strong and dignified, not the Trumps, the Millers, the Holmans, the Hegseths, the Markwaynes, for God's sake, etc. These are all weak, pathetic men abusing power. Listen to the Salgueros - their nobility and dignity are what should be exemplified and practiced. The ICE agents and their bosses are pathetic and criminal . . . I'll stop and go cry . . .! )-:
These are precisely the kind of people who make America great -- and not "again," but still. I do not know how a family bears up under this kind of mess, but they are inspiring. I cannot imagine what they're going through, and it's heartbreaking.
I almost vomited when I saw that full-size photo of The Devil Wears Trumpada 2.
All he needs is a red cape and a pitchfork.
When you want to do monstrous deeds, you put a monster in charge.
The Nazis found their monsters, Trump’s cabal has found theirs.
There is no redeeming quality among them.
Agreed